Kleine, "What Is It We Do When We Write Articles Like This One--and How Can We get Students to Join Us?" (P.22) 

Summary

In Kleins's article, "What Is It We Do When We Write Articles Like This One--and How Can We get Students to Join Us?", he attempts to inform us that their is more to writing and research than just coping old ideas.  He argues whether or not a simple chart can be used to record the way people research and write.  In his findings, he realizes that the way people write and come up with their ideas, is too complex to record on a simple chart.

Synthesis 

This article by Kleine is very similar to the one wrote by Greene.  Kleine talks about way to become better with writing and research, where Green talks about way to frame and argument.  Both articles are trying to make it easier for you to become a better writer.   

Before You Read

After looking through all my syllabi for my courses this semester it turns out most all of them will require me to so some sort of researched writing.  To help me with my researched writing this semester, here is my list of things that i think i will need to do to accomplish the projects:

-Come up with my question that needs to be answered while writing my paper.

-Doing research on my topics by going on the internet, reading books about my topics and asking peers about my topics.

-I will need to compose a rough draft

-Do peer review

-Finally turn in my final copy

Questions for Disscussion

1. The way Kleine describes the scene in the "night library", is definitely the way that I have done some of my research papers.  Coping and just taking information from previous writings and just putting that information into my paper instead of using Kleine's method which is a much better way to get information and explore your topic for your research paper.

3. Sources play a big role in the research of the professionals Kleine interviews, but what plays a bigger role is the data that is presented.  He finds a way to link everyone in the interviews in some way.  Sources have played a big part in my past research efforts because they have helped me explain the topic that i was trying to present. 

4.  My research style would change tremendously if I did what Kleine talks about in the article.  I would try find new things about my topic without talking old discoveries and using those as research. 

Thoughts

I found Michael Kleine's article to be very captivating.  He kept me very interested in what he had to say about research and how high school and college students normally do it and how they should do it.

Summary 
In Stuart Greene's article, he explains what and how to use framing.  He also explains what an argument in conversation is and gives explains and metaphors of it.

Synthesis
Greene's article is most like Swales' article.  They are both taking specific topics and trying to explain them and give examples for us to understand how to use them and what they are.



Getting Ready to Read (P.9)

1. In an everyday conversation, the word argument would be used if people disagreed on a certain subject or topic and orally stated their views on on that topic or subject.  In an academic setting, the word argument the word could be defined as a debate or discussion on different views.  

Questions for Discussion and Journaling and Applying and Exploring Ideas (P.20 and 21)

2. The reason that I think Greene quotes Burke again is because it is a great metaphor to explain how and why an argument takes place and that there are many different views on one topic and that not everyone will have the same view.  The extended metaphor is taking a many sided argument and showing us that everyone has different views on it and that some will agree with you and some will go up against you.  It presents writing as an argument in conversation.  

3. Framing is having a good question to be answered through writing.  The metaphor that underlies framing would be from Mary Louise Pratt's article "Arts of the Contact Zone".This concept is important to Greene because it sets up the point of writing his article or essay. 

2. Greene tells us what an argument as conversation is about but, he doesn't necessarily practice what he preaches.