Allen, Berkenkotter, & Murray
Allen
Before You Read
When I think of professional writers and scholars and their writing process, I believe that it must be a long process. They must go through so many drafts and rewrites to get everything just right. They have to make sure that everything is perfect before it goes public for everyone to read.
Summary
In "Inspired Writer vs. The Real Writer", Sarah Allen attempts to explain how professional writers and scholars have trouble writing just as much as college or high school students do. She explains how we all go through trail and error with our writing and that it is not going to be perfect all the time. She also tells us how even greats writers fail and don't achieve what they strive to achieve.
Synthesis
This article is most comparable to Klein's article, "What Is It We Do When We Write Articles Like This One--and How Can We get Students to Join Us?" because in both articles they talk about their struggles as writers. They tell us their own personal stories on how they struggled with writing and told us that writing is not easy. They taught us ways to make our writing better.
Applying and Exploring Ideas
2. Allen says that the purpose of writing is "connection". That what we have to say might not be so brilliant, but might be considered brilliant to someone else. I completly agree with Allen in the sense that all writing should be considered and with practice we can all become great writers. The purpose of writing I think, is writing something that others want to read, enjoy and learn from.
Questions for Discussion
2. She believes that connection with others through writing is the purpose of writing and communication is why we should write. We should always continue to practice writing and communicating with others through writing.
3. By "colluded" i believe that means to using someone elses work without knowing your doing it? I'm not totally sure, but if that's what it is, then yes I have. By someone checking over your paper and them fixing it for you and you just doing what they tell you is "collision".
Thoughts
I really enjoyed this article! It was every interesting and kept me reading. I liked that she used personal scenarios in the article to help explain her point that she attempted to make. It make it kind of fun to read.
Berkenkotter, & Murray
Before You Read
I don't really have any writing rituals. The only writing ritual that I can think of that I have it writing it on a piece of paper as a draft before actually typing the final copy.
Summary
In Carol Berkenkotter's article, ''Decisions and Revisions: The planning Strategies of a Publishing Writer", Carol attempts to explain experience working with Donald Murray. When Carol and Donald met she knew she wanted him to be her subject in her lengthy naturalistic study. For 62 days Donald turned on his tape recorder to record his aloud thinking. She found out just how much planing and revising really goes into Murray's thinking and writing.
Synthesis
I think that Allen's and Berkenkotter's articles were very similar to eachother. I think this because in both articles they talk about struggles that professional writers and cholars both have and that not all writing is a breeze and can take time to get the hang of it.
Questions for Discussion
1. Murray's writing process is very extensive. He makes sure he figures out who is audience is going to be and then figures out how to get the readers interested in what he is talking about. I do not usually think about my audience (I probably should), but i do try to make my papers interesting so people will want to read it.
3. After studying Murray, she came to the conclusion that there is more behind the writing process for professional writers then she thought. There is more thought and revisions than she intended. She also found out that Murray relies a lot on his wife with help rewriting and editing.
Applying and Exploring Ideas
1. My writing process is usually not to long or extensive (probably should be). For most papers I write, I usually reseach a little bit and then begin to write. I will usually have a revision process and have a peer read it over also. After that I will begin ti write my final copy. My level of writing is probably not that high up there. I feel that there are tons of writing steps that I am missing and need practice to get better.
Meta Moment
After the Berkenkotter and Murray readings, I understand that writing is a long process and even professionals struggle with it. I have learned that with practice i can become a better writer.
Thoughts
I really enjoyed this article. Not as much as I enjoyed Allen's, but it was still interesting. I liked that she used personal experiences in her article to get her point across to the readers.
Synthesis
This article is most comparable to Klein's article, "What Is It We Do When We Write Articles Like This One--and How Can We get Students to Join Us?" because in both articles they talk about their struggles as writers. They tell us their own personal stories on how they struggled with writing and told us that writing is not easy. They taught us ways to make our writing better.
Applying and Exploring Ideas
2. Allen says that the purpose of writing is "connection". That what we have to say might not be so brilliant, but might be considered brilliant to someone else. I completly agree with Allen in the sense that all writing should be considered and with practice we can all become great writers. The purpose of writing I think, is writing something that others want to read, enjoy and learn from.
Questions for Discussion
2. She believes that connection with others through writing is the purpose of writing and communication is why we should write. We should always continue to practice writing and communicating with others through writing.
3. By "colluded" i believe that means to using someone elses work without knowing your doing it? I'm not totally sure, but if that's what it is, then yes I have. By someone checking over your paper and them fixing it for you and you just doing what they tell you is "collision".
Thoughts
I really enjoyed this article! It was every interesting and kept me reading. I liked that she used personal scenarios in the article to help explain her point that she attempted to make. It make it kind of fun to read.
Berkenkotter, & Murray
Before You Read
I don't really have any writing rituals. The only writing ritual that I can think of that I have it writing it on a piece of paper as a draft before actually typing the final copy.
Summary
In Carol Berkenkotter's article, ''Decisions and Revisions: The planning Strategies of a Publishing Writer", Carol attempts to explain experience working with Donald Murray. When Carol and Donald met she knew she wanted him to be her subject in her lengthy naturalistic study. For 62 days Donald turned on his tape recorder to record his aloud thinking. She found out just how much planing and revising really goes into Murray's thinking and writing.
Synthesis
I think that Allen's and Berkenkotter's articles were very similar to eachother. I think this because in both articles they talk about struggles that professional writers and cholars both have and that not all writing is a breeze and can take time to get the hang of it.
Questions for Discussion
1. Murray's writing process is very extensive. He makes sure he figures out who is audience is going to be and then figures out how to get the readers interested in what he is talking about. I do not usually think about my audience (I probably should), but i do try to make my papers interesting so people will want to read it.
3. After studying Murray, she came to the conclusion that there is more behind the writing process for professional writers then she thought. There is more thought and revisions than she intended. She also found out that Murray relies a lot on his wife with help rewriting and editing.
Applying and Exploring Ideas
1. My writing process is usually not to long or extensive (probably should be). For most papers I write, I usually reseach a little bit and then begin to write. I will usually have a revision process and have a peer read it over also. After that I will begin ti write my final copy. My level of writing is probably not that high up there. I feel that there are tons of writing steps that I am missing and need practice to get better.
Meta Moment
After the Berkenkotter and Murray readings, I understand that writing is a long process and even professionals struggle with it. I have learned that with practice i can become a better writer.
Thoughts
I really enjoyed this article. Not as much as I enjoyed Allen's, but it was still interesting. I liked that she used personal experiences in her article to get her point across to the readers.
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